For people that don’t follow the YouTube community, YT has a terrible track record of not treating creators equally, and demonetizing a ton of creators for little to no reason, while some of their other creators, namely Jake and Logan Paul could violate these same guidelines that the rest were slapped over the wrist with.
This has been a long time under way, and while I don’t particularly think they should drop shows like they stupidly did with Pewdiepie, there definitely had to be some backlash for posting a video of a dead guy, when they were striking against videoes talking about that video, for being in violation.
It’s also worth noting, that YouTube were not the ones taking down the video, Logan did this himself after the backlash, and that they waited so long is rather indicative of them trying to see where the wind blows and if they could get away with it.
Honestly, YT has been writing the book on “how to shit on your creators” for 2017 and more, but they might finally be setting back on a better track.
I don't know who's to blame. But somewhere along the line we let people's outrage have more control than it probably should.
I don't know who Logan is but read what he did. It was disgusting. But the market should have naturally handled it. The problem is had YouTube done nothing it likely would not have affected his views. That should tell you something about how loud and powerful we have let the offended become.
I think there is a second problem that actually might be bigger. Intolerance for mistakes.
I did not see the video in question but I know that humans can often loose judgment and make mistakes. I think it is going to make shitty society to live in if you will be judged in perpetually for the worst moments of your public life.
There are talks about him breaking YouTube rules. That is fine. He should be punished within those guidelines. But it seems people want blood.
should i be surprised that the first few comments are somehow defending logan paul in some way?
are we so desensitized that we just kinda shrug our shoulders when someone posts a video of a dead guy? what about if a large portion of his audience is kids?
"but wow his viewcount!" i mean what about that warlord that murdered and maimed a whole bunch of innocent people. he was bad but the efficiency in which he did it took my breath away!
logan paul posts a lot of dumb, sometimes racist, mostly shit videos that manipulates kids into buying their "merch" and while i'm sure someone like this has existed for every single generation, the fact that no one is there to ask him whether doing this kind of shit is beneficial besides "for the views!" i mean it wouldn't be so bad if logan or his brother were actually mentally sound enough to make just the baseline level of common decency.
maybe i am just too old, but the ability to influence so many kids at once scares me.
Well, now that YT is all grown up, they are learning the value of having producers, or generally people who can nix something before it hits the "airwaves" -as well as take the "heat".
So, yeah, maybe for your premier channels, you don't have live streamers without a net.
On the other hand, it's a bit ridiculous to crucify this guy or that Swedish guy when they have thousands of worse , much worse offenders around the globe. But hey, outrage of the day. I mean, I'm shocked, shocked they want to run lean as possible (on oversight, etc.) and cut loose the "ta[l|r]ento" at first sign of trouble.
And, if you head down to Lawson's konbini, you can buy the "101 ways to kill yourself without leaving a mess for your family" polite suicide book.
 And by ta[l|r]ento I mean that in the most Japanese way because YT see their creators only as cheap conduits to monetization and only care about them insofar as they create revenue for them.
I'm not a fan of Logan Paul or his content.
But I admire his hustle, he literally makes  millions of dollars off of daily youtube videos.
Besides the forest video, he was incredibly disrespectful with Japanese people in the other videos. That alone should be a reason to ban him.
[Edit: By disrespectful I mean actually harassing people (at least in the Japan videos). That's a valid cause for banning in most communities]
Why death is so much taboo in Western world today? Why teenagers should forget about death and life risks? One climbing skyscrapers risks death, but rarely there is material to show and visually warn young brains how that may end up. Most bodies in that forrest had suits, possibly office workers, who knows maybe pushed into karoshi - that is the problem and warning too.
I am not sure if Mr Paul was disrespectful in the material, that wasn't covered by the article. But death is real, why to reject it? Why to not discuss it openly?
Eh, if I were Logan I'd (hopefully have enough of said millions I earned being a hooligan) take my money and retire with the ability to do whatever I want. He had a good run, maybe he can now go do something productive with his time and money.
I feel the outrage generation has had far too much say in how this has been handled.
Videos of death appear all the time across various platforms. The fact that he made a video featuring a corpse should not enough to warrant a ban I don't feel - rather an immediate setting to 'age restricted content' perhaps - but If we're banning youtubers over showing a corpse on the screen, then most news media outlets would need to shut up shop. I know some people "don't like to see death", but it is a part of life. Do we really need to make death a taboo subject?
Now, I know that it's not simply because he video taped a corpse. His response and handling of the situation is clearly the underlying factor, and to that I ask - what happened to the idea that people can apologise, learn from mistakes, rehabilitate their behaviour and improve as a result of it? He apologised and removed his video, which seems like a reasonable response.
We all (i.e. the greater internet consuming population) seem to be going down a path of extreme responses to events without offering any ability for fixing mistakes. As soon as someone does something that's perceived to be wrong, everyone flips out and makes outrageous statements in comments threads (and in fact, it doesn't seem to require a majority voice - just loud and persistent small groups). The media perpetuates these stories as people love to keep getting more and more outraged. And people start posting more outlandish and aggressive responses in order to garner their own 'likes' and responses which feeds the snowball effect.
It seems like as time rolls on, there's less and less margin for error that people are willing to accept. And if you anger the mob for any reason, your life and career is over. It's a big risk for anyone in the public light I feel, and I wonder if we'll reach a stage where content creators (actors, writers, vloggers, streamers, or whoever) will change how they see any value in their career if it could be immediately and permanently extinguished for minor reasoning.
Edit: That wasn't supposed to sound as ranty as it did, apologies.
Philip DeFranco has analysed this well and covered this in several videos, the latest being . I agree with his analysis that the problem here is YT itself, not the content creators. I personally believe this latest development makes Logan Paul somewhat of a scapegoat, especially since his video apology  was one of the most sincere public apologies I've seen.
>Last year, YouTube dropped another one of its stars, Felix Kjellberg, better known by his YouTube alias PewDiePie, from its top-tier advertising after reports surfaced about anti-Semitic comments he made on video.
I generally really respect the NYT but to phrase the whole PewDiePie situation like this is utterly disgusting and a misguided narrative.
I think this was a way for Logan Paul to start his own streaming service.
I have to believe this was intentional so he could essentially force his audience to go some paid network he owns. I don't think it was as accidental as their making it seem.
Disney is trying to start their own streaming network as well.
I have to think these are all related.
He apologized for his actions - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZT7T-TXT0 . Not sure why should be crucified more.
Google has taken a stand against antisemitism, which means it is enacting a political agenda.
Google should be punished for attempting to enact its political agenda. It has no legitimate business. Politics is not legitimate business.
YouTube should be careful in how they approach this.
Treating top talent poorly is a great opportunity for an incumbent.
Logan is generating tremendous value.
As technology becomes more accessible in order for YouTube to maintain it’s dominate position they need to realize that the creators have the power.